Basically I'm unsure what is wrong with your programming but for some reason when I try to que with my friends after level 5 we can NOT find a group. It doesn't matter if it's 2 or 3 but we can not find a group. Sometimes we even have ONE person get put in a group alone while qued in a group. Now there doesn't seem to be a problem with players on because when we AREN'T in a group we each get in a DIFFERENT game quickly. If you can't figure out what is going on I would LOVE to have a peek under the hood and see if I could figure out a patch for it.

On another note the entire fact that you can not group up with more then 3 people but have to have 7 people to do a tournament is completely moronic. How are you supposed to practice or start getting a group together if not even 4 people can group together. Who cares about pubstompers yes it will happen yes it will be slightly annoying but just set it up so it TRIES to put them against each other if it can. It wouldn't be that hard to do.

When you are in a clan, your clanleader can organise trainings with bigger groups.
And I personally didn't notice much more time of waiting while in a group of 2 or 3. What's more, there could appear an impression that gathering a group could help in decreasing the period of time, tho for me it's illogical. When you have group it's important what characters are there in the group. If you have for example 3 inquisitors or gunners - it's impossible for the whole group to play together (limit for each team is 2 for the characters). And i think it's also difficult to find a game even with 2 of each in a group, as there are always some other inqs and gunners in the queue. I'm not sure how is it with other characters tho.

You can do custom games with 5on5 6on6 7on7 8on8 9on9 10on10. You need to be in a clan to send a battle invite to another clan.

Its great for training. Tournaments are 10on10 thats right.

It would be bad if you could group with 4++ players for public games. That would be a public bash and no one would have fun who has no friends online. If you queue with 3er teams there are often exciting matches.

The clan battles are idiotic. Firstly you have to pay 10,000g to start the clan not THAT big of a deal but something. Then you have to put your group together. Then you have to find another clan that's on at the same time and challenge them specifically and they have to have the same people willing to play against it and you don't fill it up with randoms so it would be only a few people against a few people.

We have qued as tank/paladin tank/berserker gunner/paladin berserker/paladin. All of them we waited over 30min and nothing. If there is a limit to no more then 2 per class then it should be PROGRAMMED to not allow 3 of the same in the same group. if there are 2 of the same even then it still shouldn't have a problem finding a group. The problem I believe is that it is putting solo above group when forming games. That is completely irrational. If you put groups first then the first games will be filled with premade groups fighting together instead of premades never finding a game that perfectly fits them.

The thing that seriously befuddles me is the fact that ONE person can get placed in a game. This is supposed to be a complete game not a beta that SHOULD NOT HAPPEN PERIOD. Honestly it's really annoying how I want to play a TEAM game with my friends but we are PUNISHED for trying to work as a team. First with the instant que second with the whole idea of "It's not fair if you premade a big group then you end up winning". It's just a fact of team work. Learn to work together as a team with random people and you have the same chance. You should be rewarded and pushed to work as a team not this idiocy.

Well i've never tried playing in a group of 3 inqs or guns, i was only thinking theoretically in the last post.
And i dont think i met a problem of waiting for 30 minutes since last month when i came back to the game after a break. And i often play in a group, and we create groups of different kind of characters. You do something wrong :p press play together and wait. Don't do anything in the game, don't dare to press unready. I'd say the first game is always the longest to wait for, after that just press ready again quickly and i don't think i waited for more than 5 minutes in such a situation (honestly i'd say max a minute)...

And you don't have to be a clanleader - to create a clan - to play in one. Just join one.

What is the level of your char ?
If you're between 2 matchmaking range level it will be harder for you to find a game.

And inquisitor and gunner are over played , if your group have one or both of this class , matchmaking have difficulty to find a balanced game.

First of All to eliminate missunderstandings. A Group of 3 is max because if more than 3 skilled Players would group up, all other would be bashed over and over again. It's just a Rule to balance the Teams. Secondly you don't need to create a Clan for 10k Gold just join one if 10k Gold is too much for you. And you don't need to duel other Clans you can train inside your Clan against your Friends. Just create 2 Teams ( 2 Teamleaders) and invite the other Team to train. For the long waiting Queue and not getting all of you in the same Game or even same Team. Press alltogether "Play" and wait till you get in the Game otherwise if anyone press "Play" again he gets unready what means he doesn't get in your Game or gets in the Enemy Team.

In a Team there is a limit for each Class except Berserkers, Tanks and Paladins.

In a Team may only 2 Gunners.
In a Team may only 2 Sappers.
In a Team may only 2 Fire of Sisters.
In a Team may only 2 Ice Witches.
In a Team may only 2 Inquisitors.
In a Team may many Tanks as possible.
In a Team may many Berserkers as possible.
In a Team may many Paladins as possible.

I hope I could help.

Well that's confusing because we mostly play paladin beserker and tank. In this case we should be getting games without a problem. I did notice that we had 3 tanks in one game so I thought the idea that only having 2 of every class was incorrect.

As to the part of waiting for a game then getting the ball rolling I have seen this also. This happens because everyone quickly reques and you get in with the same people but so help you god if you miss that que and the main problem we have is that first game. we have waited over an hour for the first one but once you have the first one you can't even level up you have to INSTANTLY que.

This also brings me to another point. You should be able to DO THINGS while you're in que. You shouldn't be stuck looking at chat...ESPECIALLY when you are solo. I should be able to look at my skills start planning upgrades and all kinds of things.

That's true. If you miss the Wave you have to wait. Just give this game a Chance, a little bit more Time. If we get more Players there are more Games and the Problem should be solved. To your Suggestion with Upgrading/Skilling as you wait for a Game should be considered by the Panzar Team.