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Is that viable to make a progression "step by step" ?

I'm lvl 4 atm, and I'm farming as much gold as I need to get my lvl 4 stuff/potions and even a few runes, without gaining xp, and only then I go to lvl 5+ matches.

Is that a good idea ? Is there other level cap when I can do that ?

(Sry for my english, not my native language ^^ I hope that's good enough :P)

And btw, teamplay > pay to win, the only thing you can't beat is a full team who paid :P


Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:07 pm
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white_noise wrote:
Definition of pay2win is that you can buy your victory if you pay enough. And no amount of money will guarantee you victory here.

But I agree with you about the percentages. Sucess probabilities here sucks. And it's especially annoying when you try to craft some high end stuff. Or runes/amulets for that matter.

Lol, how about full party of 30 lvl people who have full set of amulets and runes? ;D

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Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:47 pm
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Even 3 amulets on 10th lvl allow to farm respauns.


Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:14 pm
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Smeshnoi wrote:
Lol, how about full party of 30 lvl people who have full set of amulets and runes? ;D

In my expirience couple of right amulets make a great difference in comparsion to none. But full amulets make little difference in comparsion to that couple. And you don't need to pay for couple of amulets and some runes as surplus from shards. You will get them anyway if you playing the game. Not farming, just playing. So I'd say this party will not decide the outcome of the battle as long, as there is another party of 30s of the same skill with shards and couple of amulets in the other team.

zhelka wrote:
Even 3 amulets on 10th lvl allow to farm respauns.

Hmm. I look on this situation from 30 level perspective, but it is different on low levels, I admit. It is harder to get enough resources for amulets there, so the ones who will buy them will get more advantage. Ok, it's kinda seems like p2w on low levels.

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you people have the definition of pay to win wrong, it doesn't matter if dropping 50 bucks on a game gets you better FASTER than someone not doing it. Pay to win is when it is physically impossible for a free user to reach the stats of a pay user, so this game is definitely not pay to win because u can buy item plans with gold, amulet plans with gold, and enchanting plans with gold. the only thing im ashamed at them for is that you have to pay gems to respec or else delete ur lvl 30 and start againl.


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There is no need to respec on 30 level, because you will max out ALL skills by then.

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as an example, you up level, but do not have time to do gear and meet in a fight with someone who has played more fights - it is gear full. You can either play for 5 hours or buy equipment that would be competitive. Balancer is trying to reduce the players to battle with their equipment.

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But, balans don't consider that anyone have amulets.
Saw such more events, to prove it. And usual balancing sapper how equal to a bers...

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Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:24 pm
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Kirk wrote:
But, balans don't consider that anyone have amulets.
Saw such more events, to prove it. And usual balancing sapper how equal to a bers...

I think you wrong. Developers says that it is considered too. And amulated bers opposed to another bers with maybe without amulets but with better gear. I can't know who is right, so it is good to ask the developers.


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And how balance conside Allstar, and others players sometimes?
I didn't saw so equip and amulets players at ours command, usually.
At 30 russians have some balance - too much full equipe players...

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Продаец наркоты, пал 27 лвла.
Kir13, канонир 17 лвла.
Холодная смерт, фростка 28 лвла.
Жрица пламени, сорка 30 лвла.
Орг со щитом, танк 20 лвла.
Громила с дубин, берс 11 лвла.
Скелет в шкафу, инк 12 лвла.


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