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Tephis wrote:
Xylar wrote:
90 days premium and 0 euro? something's wrong...


Cristals come from tournaments.

I thought so but also thought that only premium players can actually get to these 'best' clans to win tournaments. I understand all now.


Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:04 pm
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I never bought any crystals, and i won 1300 yet, so is not p2w.

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Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:57 pm
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To End the Discussion. This Game is NOT Pay 2 Win. It is called "Skill 2 Win". ;)

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Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:35 pm
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Not exactly so
I play inq, and havent spend a single money for anything in this game. I am already lvl 20 and have "full gear" besides shoulders, with maxed enchantements (of course without maxed amount of possible bonus, for that I would need to be a millionare or extremely lucky). I even managed to create few amulets already, since the last patch, its not that resource/time demanding. This took me pretty much more than 6 months to do, since I dont play every day 20 matches, but like to play occasionaly.
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eventhough I reached this aparent top (for the time being), I still cant compare to those, who have shitload of crystals (either from tournaments or paying real money). They can keep up their equip with runes forever and have all amulets on all the time and this makes huge difference even on this point, where I should, as you all say, be equal to them. Well, somehow (lets call them p2w players, since it is pretty much true) if I go 1v1 against p2w inq, he has like 1k more HP than me, he hits me with PA for more than 2k, whereas my PAs hit for cca 1,7k. And just somehow, eventhough I have attack speed and crit amulets, whenever he hits me its like 70% one hit crit IK, somehow his attacks seem like they are faster than mine, although it should be equal.
OK, lets try to focus fire sisters, well p2w fire sister hits me for about 800 with fire ball, so she needs to hit me 4-5 times and I am done, she has like the same HP as me, so if she is not totally stupid and knows how to block an Inq, I have no chance unless she makes some mistake.
Then frost witch - again HP nearly same as me, she just needs to block my attacks and wait for a good time to freeze me in 1,5s cause of her speed and usually someone comes and helps her.
P2W zerger...he hits me for 5 times, and then/or just lands crushing blow, which with speed A is nearly impossible to avoid, and even with block on, I end up with 1/5 of my HP.
pony, even freaking p2w paladin owns me, with 2 critical PA and slowly regenerating health.

And no, I am no noob, I can play my class after this long time decently, and if I am in a balanced match I am usually in top 3 score possition.
As an Inq class I have quite hard time to get into a good clan team in tournament and win, so no way I get crystals from there and I really not planning on paying for this game, only to be called hacker and idiot because of this extreme inbalance this system creates. Enough I get hard times from some players when I use poison, because according to them, only noobs use the most dmg output spell Inq has.

My point is, that I understand the frustration people get, when they try to play this game and get incredible p2w feeling, because say what you want, it is there and unless some major change in this system is made, you all have to admit, that paying, will always give you advantage over those who dont, if you are about the same skill (cause I met some paying players which were totally bad). Because most people have life and there is no way to keep up with only 7 day duration on stuff, unless you wanna play 9 hours every day.
If I compare it to League of Legends for example, I reached lvl 30 in like one month time, got all needed runes, and then it was just me meeting opponents on different skill level, but none of them could have the same skill, only with some advantage over me, just because he could afford it.


Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:29 pm
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I have to disagree with a few key points, first up RUNES - if you dont have tons of them you are doing something wrong, you do realise that you can convert one type to another. i have never paid for a rune and built enough to last me a month. Next up Amulets, again you should be able to farm enough mats in a week to build the amulets you need, they cost 140-150 mats each, in level 20 games that shouldnt take the long each week. This is a lot easier if you have premium of course but if you dont want to pay then you need to farm for 50% more time.

This brings me to my main point, the actual cost, I wouldnt mind about people shouting P2W is the cost was stupidly high but it isnt, I have paid money for this game, I am proud I have, I enjoy it and have put loads of hours into it. So far I have spent £16 had premium all the time, got a full gear level 20 (with paint job) and 3 other 10+ characters, all of which are gearing up from 14.

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