Before accusing other players for being noob, grab a coffee, sit at a corner and think about why after ages of playing Panzar, you still have 2.8k eff.

A heavy-eq-ed char with 2.8-2.9k eff isn't that bad I think. Especially that i constantly play with people epic-geared having 3k eff and even less. ^^
Try, one time, just one time, to exp from 1 level naked to 30 level full eq without money/crystals. You never did, did you.

I wonder how can a guy playing one single year have all full epic chars Well PAYED.

We'll meet one day when i will have all these epic eq and runes and amus just like you do once you create a character, i guess. Then we'll talk about our eff-es. ^^
But that would be years I guess, as i'm not the type of player who chases after crystals going to tournaments with half-full eq.

LoL, wrong, speaking about my zerk, i didnt have epics until lvl 30. and again LoL because you think i joined panzar the day i joined the forums, haha, I didnt care about the forums until i had lvl 30 and joined a clan to play tournaments. You have no idea since when i have been playing this game.

FYI, what you call "donators", are actually normal players. players like you on the other hand, are called leeches, players who doesnt wanna spend a single dime for their own hobby.

I was grown knowing that the software/game developers are living with the money you spend for their products just like electronics, foods and other products. I bet you download everything you need cracked from piratebay?!

I dont think you ever meet any of my classes in games, not even with heavy epics + runes and amulets. You have a long way, a very long way. If one day I decide to create a new class to play for fun, i will let you know to group up. guess until im lvl 20, then our effs wont match

Headquarters this was my opinion of you but seems u back up one side .


actually am 3100 EFF sorry to disappoint you , thou i bought my EPIC , amulets , runes ,1 month ago i raised my EFF from 2 to 3k EFF , am on the Bord of EFF no 86 and 1 in xp gaining , i don't have to tell you all this ofc cuz i really don't care what you both think about me , still for you Headquarters read from the beginning an see who personalized the argument (still thinking of you as a mature guy ) , and i played 2,8 years with out paying a dim but if you wnna play this game better to pay .

so i actually played this game for more than 2 years with out paying , did you 2?

but ofc its as you both know very hard to forge EPIC and runes and amulets , so u have to pay .

am not gonna go low on this and start quoting , its not my intention , you guys have a topic m wnna talk about the subject with out personalizing the argument you still most welcomed , and am not gonna quote both of you in this forum and make it a very personal discussion , i will show you thing about you that u really forgot to mention .

and i don't drink coffe sorry to disappoint you again .

TC and am not go low again and say noobs as you did , TC guys

Seems like you 2 gone after each other now , lets just forget about all this , still i think xylar has a point there , i played for a long time with out paying money but at the end i had 2 , so don,t compare ur self to others , some players just don,t pay like i was and some just can,t , so loose some of the snobbish attitude headquarters .

yeah I just don't remember any Headquarters in game and i think I would, as in the past there weren't so many players in general as there was only EU for us. You 'appeared' after I went for a 'break' before getting new account. I remember Unsichtbar, Globi, Zera, Drugger, Great Healer n Snookeh, and i dont remember you. Dammit.

Yes, normal players, just donaters. EQ not exp-ed, just bought.
I would LOVE to spend some money for this game to improve it. If only it was not the only way to fully matter in game. If only it all wasn't p2w. ^^ This model gets better, you won't need crystals to craft epics or runes, then I will have a colourful armor.

I have never visited piratebay (btw, isn't it already closed? I heard of some arrestments some time ago). And even if - what is your business here?
I can pay 150,- for a game that i can play every time i want and can really compete. HQ I believe you are an intelligent man. Why do you think Panzar has so, so, so little players? Look when i downloaded LoL i paid nothing, i have a character and play equal characters, i never ever complained about imbalance. How can that game exist if you don't pay for it? Wtf? Why Panzar can't? Why does it go more into p2w for 2-3 years till recently (some little + for crafting) ? I am not going to ever support this.

You keep comparing a player with crystals, with player without them. If you'd ever like to imagine how it is, without crystals, take any of your full-eq-ed chars, take off the eq, and go into battle. Play 300 battles like this. Then come back to that eq and we'll be able to see each other in battle, where I will still have only these heavies, and you 1k bv less than before the 300 battles. THat's how the bv system works, unfortunately.
But that's not gonna happen, I do know. You'd never accept, im sure, being humiliated for 300+ battles just because you stopped using your crystal-income ^^

@Wolfss. Yes, I did too.
Okay Wolfss, I'm kind of surprised with what you answered, kind of glad as well. Anyways I still think the subject is 'exhausted'(?). Or shall we keep continuing giving the same arguments for and against some skills being OP or not?

Xylar , i said what i thought ,i have nothing personal with you , i relay played this game cuz i loved it but seems like u must pay at the end , still if you wnna discuss the OP topic am in for it with out personalization

you TC mate

To sumarise the p2w subject.

Gathering eq delayed for 3 months.

If you really like the game , pay for it mate . 150$ is enough i guess .

As I said, will never support such a model of earning - making most of players suffer. Never mind. ^^