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Author:  Auni [ Mon May 19, 2014 11:25 pm ]
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This is amazing, i have with my icemage without!!!! runes and amuletts 3700 effi. you want to troll me?
With runes and Amuelts i have 4115 and i must wait like 10-15 min for a game !
REMOVE SKILL VALUE FROM BATTLE VALUE!

Panzar has to less people anybody know it.
You panzar devs want to split this less people into /gear/skill/lvl/class/upgrades/amuletts/ruunes Are you completly cute?
why i must play naked vs full stuffed guys? only because they are dont know how to play?
WE HAVE TO LESS PLAYER!!!
YOU KNOW THAT!
Why give us a matchmakingsystem to split this less player in skill groups? are you srsly?


My fire mage has 2,,1k mastery and 3,3k hp. and i must play!!! vs full stuffed guys. Im still place 1-5 because i know to play. so my bv increase again....
why i must play vs overgeard guys ???
WHY? You tell us QB this is no P2w... You have right, if i play with no stuff vs no stuff guys. .....

but i play vs full stuff guys... so this is pony P2W.....

I want to play without amu/runes vs other guys without amu and runes..
but my battlevalue on my frostmage is on 3,7k without runes and amuelts.... you want to troll me?
Some guys with runes and amus dont have this BV.

So in my opinion.. remove skill valuie from battlevalue.
WE HAVE NOT ENOUGH PLAYER to create fair matches.
Why you want to split this amount of player in skillgroups??
Are you completly dumb? we have 8 Classes -30 LvL-20 Upgrades-20++++ armors to create fair matches.
we have now 1200+ player to create this matches, in 30 LvL.

Everyone know that cant work!
Panzar has a greate idea, split this less people into skillgroups, so EVERYONE CANT FIND A GAME!
You want to troll us?
Congratz it works!

I say it, Panzar EU is dead in 20 WEEKS if you dont change your police......

have fun this is my last topic,,, if no tournament comes into eu, i search for a other game .
im sad, because i like the gameplay, but the dev's of panzer (sorry for this) are rly dumb, every f2p game in the world wide web has more player like yours.
Panzar is 100' better then this games, but YOU DEV'S TO DUMB TO PUBLISH THIS GREAT GAME !

Author:  cokeliko [ Mon May 19, 2014 11:40 pm ]
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:)

Author:  Orkslayer [ Tue May 20, 2014 10:51 am ]
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+1

I play only new chars till ~18lvl or so(except the Gunner:). After i reach that lvl i just make new char(becouse of the last 3 patches). For me the bigger problem is the latency(i can manage playing naked, but naked with lags is impossible).


A friend of mein joined me on the last run. We started together, but after lvl 12 i coundnt play with him anymore, couse his bv was too low!??!(he was lvl 11, i had something like ~1.6or 1.7, he had 996 )


Auni,if you find nice game pls let me know!

Author:  Mr.Unsichtbar [ Tue May 20, 2014 12:41 pm ]
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Auni wrote:
This is amazing, i have with my icemage without!!!! runes and amuletts 3700 effi. you want to troll me?
With runes and Amuelts i have 4115 and i must wait like 10-15 min for a game !


4115 is nothing against 4400. You can still find in under 3-5 mins a game. When i click play than i wait like 15-20 mins. This feature is made for noobs. For high skilled players is this feature sh**!

Author:  Gandalf DerGeile [ Tue May 20, 2014 3:59 pm ]
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:lol: absolutly right and true

Author:  Xylar [ Tue May 20, 2014 8:51 pm ]
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huh, Unsichtbar did you ever write a post without a cry about your so-high-lol-and-i-guess-artificially-gained bv after your last unban? kinda silly when you have to wait due to this bv, try accepting losses as i've heard you keep not to be.
And yeah i agree with you Auni, the thing about 'full stuffed vs naked' is present since the beginning i guess, which shouldnt imho take place.

Author:  Mr.Unsichtbar [ Tue May 20, 2014 9:44 pm ]
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I stopped to ragequit. My value goes still higher even when i lose or win. No one from EU can know how is it to wait 15min for only one game!!! (CrazyDee and Impression have maybe this problem too, i dont know.) So everyone who have not more than 4.2k value should sh*t up.

First 15 mins you see only the "waiting screen" by this stream

Author:  Xylar [ Tue May 20, 2014 11:20 pm ]
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first game takes always more to wait for.
People used to wait for 45 minutes in the past.
And do you really, really expect that on your full equipped char you gonna play with half naked guys? That's what bv prevents from. At least tries (as far as i remember, it isn't so bad now, in this particular aspect). Is it really fun to play as a 11k hp zerker with 3k+ mastery against a 6k hp zerker with much less power? I indeed met such games, I don't really get it how it could ever be fun, and yeah, especially for the "noob" side - if you call noob everyone who used to play other chars instead of farming materials on the orc. Just an example;]

Author:  Delat [ Wed May 21, 2014 12:00 am ]
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Mr.Unsichtbar wrote:
Auni wrote:
This is amazing, i have with my icemage without!!!! runes and amuletts 3700 effi. you want to troll me?
With runes and Amuelts i have 4115 and i must wait like 10-15 min for a game !


4115 is nothing against 4400. You can still find in under 3-5 mins a game. When i click play than i wait like 15-20 mins. This feature is made for noobs. For high skilled players is this feature sh**!

Getting enough stuff to craft heavy item became insane hard.
Even medium stuff I have to craft on instalment basis while playing new chars after last 2 patches.
Grinding for materials at higher levels is boring, so don't expect people to play long enough to get almost half thousand of different materials for 1 epic item, and while running without pants having chances against other players.
It's called frustration, and it's not an eureka that frustrated players quit and seek a new game.

Tbh. after I was spawned in rooms with people with 400-800 higher BV I left the game entirely.
Where's the sense ?

No, there's no chance for balance in a game with fully automated room creation with auto player spawn.
The more, to raise effectiveness you have to win couple games in a row. But loosing 1-2 games because of complete nooblets who can't recognize who's enemy, makes you loose 30-50 effectiveness just like that.

No, I doubt >30 lvl players will see more competitive opponents soon. If ever ...

Author:  Physician [ Wed May 21, 2014 5:59 pm ]
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Battle value system is bad especially for paladins. They are on top most of the times, which means their value goes fast higher and higher.
And then what happens? You're always playing with two paladins in both teams, which annoys me like hell, and there is a lack of paladins on low battle value matches. No need to mention about waiting times.

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