Dear Friends,

Let me start by offering my appologies to everyone in ArmadA and Exclusive if I ever said anything disrespectful to any of you. I was almost in all good clans and had the chance to play with many of you (even had the pleasure to play in Exclusive's first team, Family) either in normal battles or in tournaments, and I learned alot from all of you by watching you closely. I won with you and lost against you more than many other players and as the big Sunday is coming (the Sunday you all talk abuot these days) I do not care at all who wins, I just hope that the rules will be enforced(to leave no topic to fight about) and the battles will be a joy to be watched by others.

Recently as clan Disorder started to rise to power and become the third best team of EU, and could also win the "almost forever" best teams of EU once or twice, we see so many bad languages, words and disrespecful conversations in both game chat and forums(Yes, perhaps I was one of them, and thats what that appology at the begining of this post is for) being exchanged between the players.

We are all extra ordinary players with different game styles, skills and opinions with different cultures from different places on blue earth, BUT with a common interest, we all play Panzar.

Lets all (including me) bring back the respect and peace we all deserve and think of the tournaments as "friendly matches" and not "wars". Lets stop calling eachother noobs and stop writing "easy" at the end of every battle we win.

I know most of us are old enough to know the meaning of respect and we all are educated enough to be able to pay respect to eachother as we do to our friends and families in real life.

A note to Disorder players:
You guys are full of energy and skillful compared to me, so if i leave Disorder, you lose nothing as im so little part of the team which can be simply forgotten. So do not think of this as a warning or threat, but rather a simple note that if you keep being disrespectful to other players and/or clans (even if that's what they do), I will be left with no choice than leaving my beloved clan. If the Clan leader and/or commander doesnt know how to respect and is first to start the flame, then we cannot expect much from other members and we all will be always wraped up with the same ribbon color, no matter what color we actually are. We shall not push or charge eachother to flame or start ugly, useless conversations, but rather invite eachother to be respectful and calm.

Thanks,

Best regards,

Good topic im near to totaly agree with you :



It's a competition so it's near of a war for the friendly matches play FFA , but it's true than in " war " you still have to respect your enemys ( this depend of who are your enemys)

So you should respect others too and not to say to stay out only couse someone is female No bad feelings.

Nice to hear it Headquaters , see you on Sunday

Good topic, im 100% agree with you, see you.

I agree Headquarter. I never liked people saying "easy" or "noob" in tournament games.
However, yes you apologized for being rude too but from five to two weeks ago, you've been the most virulent and aggressive-chat player we had.
I recon however that those two last weeks you've changed back to the way you were (nice and calm), and that is good. But you cannot blame us for doing something we did not do as much as you did.
I really want this to end too like you headquarter, so I hope we all stop this (never done it myself anyway). Not sure if is that is what you are saying, but the problem is the server, not Disorder especially.
Still, we have some virulent talkers like all clan do, and it is impossible to dictate them what to say, they will write what they want anyway. I hope you'll excuse us and not blame it on the clan. We have limited power on our players mind and sayings, even if we are telling them all the time to calm down a bit.

And if it is a reference to the last gold league match vs exclusive where most of our players said "easy" at the end. Yes, that was silly, but on the first match, on of their zerks said it for no reason when we lost the first match.
Still, I know it's not an excuse to do it and it was silly to say it back when we won the second match, but things would have gone probably differently if we were not humiliated first by this quote.
Anyway, I agree those things should not happen. But it's hard for many people to remain polite when they are being offended first without them saying anything.

Dear Elindoria,

You totally misunderstood my message! First of all, If you read the post more carefully, that appology, as it is very obviously written, is toward other clans and not for you or other disorder players. Second of all, the post is about what clan members say to ANOTHER clan members, and absolutely not about what they say in their own clan chat as it is not my business what Exclusive players for example, discuss about in their own clan chat.

You mentioned that I was the most "rude and aggressive chat player we had", again, this is not related to this post what I say in our clan chat. If you have problem with what I say about our tank's shield, your lifts or our paladin in "our own" chat, then you can ask our clan leader to warn or kick me out from the clan. Did I discuss here what other members of our clan say about other panzar players in our clan chat? do I, as a mod, ban them for what they say in our clan chat? unfortunately you along one or two other players in our clan, can never agree with our problems and with the existance of such players, a clan can never improve.

Next you mentioned: "But you cannot blame us for doing something we did not do as much as you did.", again not related, i feel sorry that you either did not read my post carefully or you are out of the topic in general. This is about the ugly conversations between our clan and other clans, and if you did not notice, many players used ugly words toward eachother in forums and global chat, again, what they say in their own clan chat, is NOT the topic of this post and not my nor your business.

Yes I offered my appologies, but if you were aware of the topic a little bit or read my message more carefully, you would understand that appology was infact on behalf of all players of our clan. As a moderator, I never used bad words in global chat and forums (if you have a screenshot, please send it to white wolf for further investigation), but I have seen useless conversations and very ugly derty words in our clan chat, much worse than what I might have said about our clanmate's gameplay. If you are interested on knowing some examples, contact me in private.

and then you said: "we have some virulent talkers like all clan do, and it is impossible to dictate them what to say, they will write what they want anyway. I hope you'll excuse us and not blame it on the clan",
well, Im not the clan leader to kick such players out of the clan (again, im refering to the conversations on GLOBAL CHAT AND FORUM) but i have the option to leave the clan if such kind of words are going to be exchanged again, "specially between the clan leaders"!

Wrap up:
Sorry to disappoint you elindoria, but this post is not what you thought it is about, if you wanna discuss about how players must talk in their own clan chat, please make another post in forum(however thats between the players within the clans and not the business or interest of other clans/players).
My complains about some of our clanmates are still valid and I did not say anything to feel the need to be sorry about or be regretful. If I complain about my tank's shield, it is very different than calling for example Asmoy a noob (the best tank of EU btw)! It has a very different meaning.
I hope all clans are going to respect eachother from now on and we only go to battle in tournaments/friendly-matches and do not drag the war to chats and forums.

So do not blame me for what I said the day that I was complaining about our teamplay, and one of our teammates asked me to sh@t up! Thats what those kind of players think about the game, to just sh@t up and play, never complain, never discuss the problems of the team and thus, never improve.

anyways as this is very non-related to this post, please open another topic in the forum if you wish or discuss your problems with the clan leader.