Hello every player in this great game

First of all am gonna introduce my char :
my char name is wolfsss , am a tank lvl 30 , 3 k eff , 35 k hp , 5,3 k mastery , full epic , almost half upgraded gear , been playing this game for almost 3,5 years .

well i just wanted to think out loud , about characters and powers (skills) , some thing i noticed .

PS : plz do correct me if any of my information are wrong .

OVER POWERED CHARACTERS :
1-first am gonna start with the OP characters (over powered) , or at least i think they are :
The only character i think is OP in this game is the Inquisitor or as we all call it (inq) . inqs are a massive damage dealer characters especially from the back ( from behind the other player ) , they have many great skills that helps them to do so , they can hide , spit poison that can spread , hold players in there positions and place , set flames , ETC .... , mostly they depend in there characters builds on mastery which makes them do massive damage especially when they go 70% or more mastery rate in there build + high block rate .
The problem is that they do so much damage they became unbalanced comparing to other characters , now they can make massive damage to you where ever they hit u from , for example in one of the games i got hit by an inq (who,s name am not gonna mention )from the front with my shield up , HE TOOK 15 K HP , now bare with me , i am a tank , i have the highest block rate in this game 95% so if am hit from the front with my shield up it will absorb 95% from the total damage the other character did to me , you guys do the math what amount of damage hes total was . ps: plz correct me if am wrong at any info here .

OVER POWERED SKILLS :
2- over powered skills in the game , in my opinion there are some OP skills for deferent characters in the game that make them dominate in some games :
A- BERSERKER (VORTEX OF WAR ) which is a very over powered skill that keeps nothing alive mostly .
B- ICE WITCH (INSTANT FREEZE) which always makes a game a north pole fight .
C- INQUISITOR ( PLAGUE + SACRED FLAME ) , i put these 2 here cuz of the inq being an OP class these 2 are a massive damage dealer skills in game,OP skills .

SOME TECHNICAL PROBLEMS :
1- so many technical problems in game that some times u fell like leaving that game :
A- TECHNICAL SUPPORT : there is a ( payment online support hot line and chat ) so if u have any problem with payment they will gladly help u how ever they can but if u have a technical problem ehh right an email and they have no online support which is really not fair at all .
B- BUGS: lots and lots of bugs and no body to tell about , you can email .
C- CONTINUANCE DISCONNECTIONS : i get disconnections up to 2-3 times each hour and not only me , i guess a lot have the same problem , no body knows why , no one to tell , u can Email .
D- EPIC (HERO) WEAPON COUNT : each time i DC i loose 3 points ( win counts) from my weapon count and its not my fault that i DC but i have to pay for it by loosing points .
E- LAGS : so much lags that some times u don't know if u r dead or alive .

these are some things i think worth of mentioning that makes this great game a bit non popular , thanks for reading and plz do correct me for any mistakes .

Wolfsss

Answering one by one (could have omitted some) just like you typed your points.

It's impossible that inq did hit you for 15k in front block. It must've been at LEAST from a side. I had a similiar situation recently, it was lag issue.
Unless you speak of magical shield not block? )) noo can't be so wrong...

Zerker's vortex is very easy to counter, to be stopped, dispelled. Everyone but frostwitch has a skill to interrupt it (although she can just freeze the zerker with some luck). Some of these skills are easier to use in the situation, some are more difficult. But it's a teamplay-game.

Icewitch'es insta can, and should, be 'blocked' with tank's magical shield. It's not op after the incantation of the skill was enslowed and it costs a lot of cp.

I actually in general, agree with the inq's thing - inquisitor is OP. Sacred flame is op because it does incredible dmg and is really cheap (cp), and can be only countered with tank's magical shield, nothing else. Plague... When you have an ally under your (tank) magical shield, and you block teh plague with it, you will still get sick. Idk if it's a bug, but it's definetely op. The op thing is also caused by teh fact that you can't 'heal' a dead body, it keeps making others sick.

There are still some people who do help online on chat, as well as on forum.
Bugs, yeah, and even if you email, you get a respond that it just cannot be fixed, being a technical problem. ^^
I don't get dc at all (1 in 100 battles maybe).
D - it's good, if it is indeed like you say, as lots of people when they want to leave, they disconnect from web on purpose (jesus, i really regret those..)
Lags, imho it's not from panzar. At least in Poland ^^^^^^ )))

Greetings

On this forum, if you complain about inq, you get flamed. By those who have inqs ofc, the rest of us think they are the easiest and most powerful class, but we are too scared to say anything, except for the few brave souls.

Hey Xylar
first of all thank you for replaying .

The example that i gave for the inq is true but still it maybe the lags i really don't know , i agree to that , what i know is that i was facing him ( face to face ) and i had my shield up , but you know it still an OP class .

Ofc most skill in the game can be encountered lol but it doesnt mean its not OP , the thing is how many time out of 10 lets say you can stop VORTEX OF WAR ? 1 , 2 times out of 10 , same goes to instant and plague , most inqs shoot there poison from distance and from behind , also most players use these kind of skills when they have a 90% rate of success ,they are not hard skills to use but very hard to stop and they do so much damage or lead to , i stopped plague many times but never had a good chance to stop instant and it is a OP skill when it can freeze a whole team in milliseconds , it,s not about stopping it , its about balance in game , how come these chars have those skills while the others have normal skills .

as for help , nice from people to help but i don't want people help mate , i want professional help , game masters , online chat and there is non in game or on web , if there is plz do post link .

DC bro is a general problem and not a personal one , make a post about it and ask who gets lots of DC , lets see the amount of players that have it , and it is a server problem not local , some server can handle huge amount of connections , OLD ones cant .

Still if some people do it on purpose , panzar have to find a solution , it,s not may fault some do it on purpose .

As for lags mate its not the connection , it is the servers mate , most of the time , when was the last time panzar announced for server maintenance ? .

thank you very much fro replaying mate , tc

hey Rin the Hateful . i agree bro , still some people do have a point and at the end its always a discussion .

thanks for replaying bro . tc

Lol 1, 2 times out of 10? Really weak. I'd say 7, 8 per 10.

As a tank, you have to have an eye on enemy frost, plus when you have whole team with you, some one person out of 8 should notice and tell that e.g. "frost is coming from back" or something. Then just shield up...
And I see not few times where tank stops insta. To be honest, I played with you a game, and I really, really complained about LACK of magical shield ^^ I still do remember that.
Insta is not op. Definetely not. Out of discussion. Just a 'pro' skill. If you mention insta and don't mention skyfire then you are really, really subjective. But well.. What would we expect from a full eq tank.....

Professional help, game masters. Srsly? This game has MAYBE 5k active players.
There is webchat on Panzar.com , but it's the same as in game. Same thing, just here it's in browser.

There's one game server. And it's rather local than server's problem (i remind French ppl used to/still do have problems with dcs. E.g. Polish ppl - i dont remember any such problems where it was Panzar that was the problem ^^ ). Lots of people don't have any dcs, jsut like for example me.

What does server maintenance have in common with lags? It's not the servers if not everyone has the problem. It's your ping to the server, which might be connected with huge distance, that's a different issue. Not server itself, if you had a better net provider you wouldn't have lags. (theory)

About inqs being OP:

In some ways I agree and in some ways I disagree. Inqs has always been enough powerful to kill most of the classes 1 vs 1. They can go invisible and leave their teammates to hunt, if they were not given such power, then why would they go invisible? they had to then play in team as they would need the support of other classes to come to any use at all. Remember, when the matchmaking is balanced, inqs get much less kills as their enemies play in group which makes it difficult for inqs to kill.

Now why I agree, because the major problem is the matchmaking and lack of players. Inqs with rank 4 weapons and 4.2k eff meet 3k gunners in game for example, and of course, the gunner wont be given a chance to breath.

About OP skills:

Yes, all classes have one or two special over powered skill, thats the base on which Panzar was built on. Vortex, ram/immortality ,skyfire , instant, mortar/hammer, barrel swap, sacred flame, ring of immortality. These were the original powerful skills, however, after introduction of patch 37, there are other skills which, one can argue about which one is more OP than the other.


Basically Panzar is all about team play, if all classes in game do their duties well, all powerful skills can be prevented, interrupted or dealt with.

About the bugs:

I agree with you about the bugs. Just take the "free fall" bug as an example. name another game living with a bug for months if not years; developers admit that they do not know what's the source.

The failed eff system which it's only advantage was to bring more money to Panzar.
Leavers, matchmaking, green/colorful screen bug, cheats (which exists for more that a year or two and studio just ban them in case of a report instead of fixing their security holes) lags and high pings etc.

As a side note, a good tank can change the course of the battle. Unfortunately tanks are not given enough XP for their magical shield (its difficult for developers to implement it, remember, we are talking about devs who doesnt know how to fix bugs) but once they master it, they have one of the biggest impacts on the battle. If as a tank you can not deal with skills like instant and sacred flame (usually can be expected after fetters and blocked by shield), then maybe you try other classes. Some players are better in attack classes than support.

Have fun

hey xyler

yes bro 1,2 times out of 10 , you imagine the perfect team in a perfect game , which really does not exist , i agree that tank should keep hes eye always on some class,s , ice witch , inq , ETC ... still you must v played a tank , mate tanks are the less class to earn CP at the start of the game especially if its coming from his magic shield , he needs to hit , kill so he can get some CP to use his counter skills and ofc nobody ever thinks what takes a tank to hold his shield (magic) if his team doe,s not care to protect him (from behind) , when lovely inqs ) bleed him to death .

There is no such thing as a perfect team , so its always skill that make the deference and ofc good players .

Stopping an instant mate seriously , i stopped maybe 1 time but i admit i was lucky , its impossible to have the speed to get ur shield up to stop it , either you already have it up or u got lucky or hmm ur super fast and it is an OP skill cuz it can clear a whole team dead , not like skyfire that u have a chance to run from or at least change it,s fallen place by ur magic shield , imagine instant followed by vortex , god bless you point taken or team dead .

About the lack of shield , i agree with you but i have my reasons :
1- you cant hold shield if you are being attacked from behind and the lovely thing is no body care to clear the attacker .
2- you can,t believe how many times am leeched from mana by fire and ice witches and the sapper doesn't care to build a totem or anybody think to change it to mana (team work you say).
3- no body ever asks why the gunner is shooting for 2 min or 3 , every body asks why shield is not up .
4- i have to earn CP or i cant counter so i have to hit and kill so i can use my skills .
5- ice mages or at least most of them love just love to leave the point and run after the other players pulling most of her team behind her and ofc as a tank u should cover her , if you don,t u r a noob and if u do u leave the point were at the end they gonna stop her or kill and u r all alone against the other team and point taken .
6- i really don,t remember playing as a tank 1 vs 1 , most the time i am 3 vs 1 or 2 at least , always a gang bang .
more things but am not gonna go through that .

"Professional help, game masters. Srsly?" yes mate Srsly , how much money is being payed to the game ? take Russians for example , the pay like hell , as long as there is money involved for getting better gear that has influence in game , yes they have to provide Professional help and game masters , it,s not a privet server u see .

Ping , i agree sometimes it is the ISP that needs to be addressed still why the laggs is at most on week ends ? cuz more players go on line , so what does ping have to do with that ? they are not from the same country for sure . it,s the servers bro . BTW i have ping of 20 , DC 1 times till now , i played for 2 hours , and btw seems like Poland is the only country that doesn't have DC,s , cheers for ur ISP .

maintenance means new equipment bro , better ones , cleaning , clearing , better cables , better routers , switches , patch cables , patch panels ETC ..
you ask for money for me to make a better character , you need to provide all these things for me , or ill play for ever to get EPIC and shut my mouth up

cheers bro

Hey Headquarters

thanx for replaying bro , i almost agree with every thing you said except saying that all classes have OP skills which in my opinion not true . how could ram be an OP skill ?
OP skills are skills that some classes only have and they make them dominate in game , such as vortex and instant + most of the inqs skills .

cheers mate

No I don't. I speak of a typical public game 1-2 successes out of 10 trials to interrupt enemy vortex of war is really weak. If you fail shield-hit you can at least turn on the skill which deals % of enemy's damage to themselves. Imagine me, on 9 stacks i have about 6k hp, and we can be, and were not a time, put in one game, i would kill myself with one such hit^^. Just like HQ said, maybe try different character
It's obvious that you have to block every enemy's PA coming to you. It's also obvious that tank also needs to gain cp. But only when there is a good occasion ^^ You as a tank having 30+k hp maybe don't feel on yourself when enemy sister or gunner are shooting, but others do feel it a lot and are easily killed by them. Watch some TM movies and how tanks play there.
And let the last sentences be also my answer for the 'stopping an instant' thing.
Notice that if you don't hold your shield, you enable enemy witches to gain lots of cp so the less you hold it the more skyfires and instas you gonna get ^^

1-true, but are you being attacked in back all the time? No, it's once per some time.
2-you must deal with it somehow ^^ Magical shield also stops the mana drain sphere (mechanism like with skyfire).
3-getting to a gunner, killing his buildings, takes a lot, a lot, a lot more time than just pressing '2'(originally).
4-answered this already a few times.
5-bla bla, junk example, if your frost does so, the enemy one can do so as well so both can be useless at a moment.

I wouldn't say they pay so lot.
As i said, maybe 5k active players, maybe 500 english speaking. Sorry dude, not today.

I never (excluding the 'safe 1%' of games) have lags due to Panzar servers, it's always my provider (100% sure), and it's still rare. As we 'use' the same server, I'm sure it's not the problem of it (the server). Btw, my Internet speed is 2Mb/s



PS. you ask why ram's op, argumenting why others are. And you argument for these others is just the same like for the ram. You give ram -> zerker finishes OR sister gives sky OR frost freezes OR many more.
Try playing a frostwitch or a berserker, it's sometimes good to look from a side and feel the need of other char by yourself