Panzarians,


This is my first totally serious discussion that I start with the community, treat this discussion with respect because the results could be a game changer for EU.

I have been discussing for the last month with the studio about the claim that the Game is too expensive and you have to pay too much. That the exchange rate doesn't add up in the math between EU and RU.

So I was able to open a door, the Studio wants proof, they want numbers to compare between Panzar and other games.


Argument 1: Proof and compare with numbers that Panzar is more expensive than other games and be specific and complete.

Panzar Premium 90 days = 900 crystals I get 3x Experience, 2x resource and..... Premium 90 days = ... Crystals and it get me 2x...

PS: if you don't have the time to look everything up, ask someone to help or give the game name to me and I'll play it to see but I can't do this alone


Argument 2: What exactly is to expensive for you and what would you pay for it.

VIP 3 month = 900 crystals = (VISA) 0,03€/crystal = 27€ (or your currency) = 1619.44 RUB (Exchangecalulator) I would Pay 20€ - argument (If I go to the shop to buy a game for my Xbox I pay 60€ after 6 months I need the buy the next package or version for another 60€ so 80€ I find a reasonable price to play with more ease)

PS: If you don't have € as currency go the website and set payment option VISA put in your price for 1 crystal. Everyone that put 0€ , don't argue and just play.

Make this discussion count, Panzar Studio is listening right now here is your chance.

Congrats WW, very good idea I hope it will help players also panzar studio (less people will stop playing panzar)

What is to expensive? It's verry easy a new player want to play. He play some round and see the game is funny. but then he see that he need to play with lvl 25 vs lvl 30 full eq. He think ok i buy 1 char to have also funn. He go to webshop and buy all what he need to make a full eq char with yellow/orange upgrades

he see :O 220€ are they crazy?
He go and play some other games.
For example "Gear UP" it's free to play but you play also most games vs people with full stuff but there it's no problem you can buy for 13.99€ all stuff, it's same like you buy one time the game for 13.99€ .

But thats not all. I see there are different Servers EU/RU/US but I play in same games with all.
Like we saw on the picture in top we need to pay 220€ for good char.
On RU Server we need to pay FOR THE SAME 145€



Why should i play on EU Server if I play in the same games with all and if I need to pay 75€ more for the same? I mean thats much monay for that monay i can go with my girlfriend in the cinema, go eating.....

My biggest issue right now, even premium account is not enough. You have to play way too much to keep up 6 amulet, and getting big runes without crystal is just too time consumable(weeks or more for 1 big), without premium is just impossible. Old days i was easily to able to save up 2-3 set of 6 amulets/week and i sit on like 100+ big runes with premium. You were able to get the most important amulets and big runes even without premium. Now i just keep breaking amulets and running out of pots.

They say they made the % crafting because ppl complained about the wating time? Lets say its used to be 1 week to farm 1 item, then wait like 5 day for craft. Now what do you do? farm for 1 week, then fail, farm for another week, fail again, then after another week of farming maybe you success. How is that better?

Im pretty sure the only ppl the game have from EU, only stays and dont leave the money hungry system, because they able to get crystals from the tournaments

Also as Chefe mentioned, its kinda funny how russians pay less for crystals, 50 cry in RU = 50 rub= 0.9 USD, we pay 1.38 USD.

For me, ppls say "Panzar going to wrong way - p2w" why?

Becouse you can buy anything for real money.

In other games you can only buy skins for weapon, skins for armor, potions, suprise box, "mounts and pets" but not armor and staff for gampley like armor, weapon, and upgrades.

Reason? Pleyer who dont have money for pay to game, can easly play and be good player, and if he want look great he can buy skins.

Look at shop in game name tera


This is the only what you can buy for real money, skins, boxes, and potions
not the staff for play.

Now look at panzar shop




Srsly?

Soo for what play Panzar from 1lvl when you can buy all what you need?
No sense, that why new players play one hour and leave, becouse it does not any sense.
Some ppls play few hour and sey yeaah have fun, i buy 30lvl char wwith all staff aand upgrades on red and?
-> One price - Chefe sey good, look up
-> Two, guy who have much real money be always better than free player = p2w
-> 3. i play panzar one year aand what? i haave only zerk with full eq yes but upgrades on yellow becouse without horseshoe is impossible to do upgrades in red, and big runes for 1250 diamonds -> 5 big runes, look at price 1250 crystals in my country costs

5 big runes costs 150PLN i need 11 big runes hmm 2 x 1250 crystals + 1 for 350 = i need 2850 crrystals for all big runes

Wut??

You see only ~90 euro, yes for You, but for me is 350PLN i earn in month 1400PLN
350 pln only for big runes, but where char, runes and upgrades?
i look on chefe post and?
i need for all 219 euro yes? so exchange this for pln and what is see?

OMG - I needd 881 PLN for one char full eq, with earn per month only 1400PLN ?? =p2w

Thanks not for me -> all new players, thats why on eu plays only +- 250 ppls

If i calculate something wrong pls say, end sorry for my english

p.s. Panzar Studio, if you want much playes play in panzar you must think, nobody want play game where you can buy anything for real money,
less prices= much players, look on tera online, cheap prices, only can buy skins etc and? on all servers tera plays more than 1 400 000 players!!
On panzar maybe 1500 players, look on any game -> WoT, LoL etc, only skins, not all staff in shop.

Thank You

Well after those comments here i hope panzar will become game not p4 win but just play for fun. i also play year and i almost have enaugh.
So many players stop playing panzar.
Why ? you can see in comments for example Professor and the others
And for the end before chance for create game was much better

The euro server is dying because of the price of crystal and fail craft system.
Less and less player's, less team in both tournament.
What more proof panzar need?

For me in north America, 350 crystals is 15cad.
The same price has 1 month for world of warcraft. But in wow, you have access to all gear and no fail in crafting. Because let's be honest, crafting all epic gear with 40% chance of success, will take forever... so 700 crystal for gear= 30$, I have forget the weapon, 20% chance of success, so 200 crystal...
Same for rune, crafting them take a eternity, because it's more like 20% chance of success, so 50$ for 5 big rune, multiply by 2 for 10......
There are also amulets, with fail system its hard to have 6 amulets, unless you play panzar full time, like a job... so another 350 crystals for 1 month amulet=15$.
After that, there is upgrade, that cost a lots of gold event with the lucky charm...

So let's see, for the first month. And remember that only the premium his for all your character's...
premium,350C= 15$
6 amulets, 350C= 15$
gear+weapon, 900C= 37$
10 big runes, 2450C= 100$

for a total of 167$ = 124 euro. with no upgrade.

So after, we pay premium and amulet every month=30$.
If we want to play 2 character's, we have to buy another month of 6amulets, so 45$ a month, 3 character's, 60$ a month and so on....
And we have to buy the gear, weapons and big rune for each character's.

The game is very expensive, even more if you want to play multiple character's.
Remember that wow only cost 15$ a month, with access to all the content, every player's have the same chance to evolve and become powerful.

event if everything is accessible in panzar, the failing system make it impossible. Try to play panzar freely for 1 year and you wont even have 1 character epic stuff with big rune and upgrade...

People wont play game that they can't evolve and be powerful has other player's...

I agree with all that the previous posters have said.

The game is too expensive and is so much pay to win that not the best teams win the tournament here in the EU,but those who can afford most money for very highly upgraded armour so this game has devolved(the antonym of ''evolved'')into a small elite rich boys and hackers game.(Because there are a lot of hackers who use crystals we pay real money for. And if Panzar Studios want proof i have it and can supply it to them anytime they want. i have screenshots that prove my point beyond the slightest doubt.) So the way it is now, it is milking players like cows and kills honest competition.

Give my clan White Snake the extremely expensive gear some people have and we will see who wins the tournaments. No offence to Armada and Exclusive on a personal basis I'm sure they are good players.

But to get their level armour now,with the proper upgrades,you've got to pay hundreds of euro.

Even if I were rich, I would consider it a personal insult to pay money to prove my personal value as a player. I find it profoundly immoral and idiotic because whether I'm rich or poor,I play for fun and to prove my real value as a player,not so I can buy it. I want to deserve it,not spend money on it.Then I have no real value as a player, I could be a noob and just because I'm a rich noob, I'm winning games and tournaments! This is utterly ridiculous and there is no other game in the internet with so low quality, unfair standards.

I teach English in a language Institute in Athens,Greece. I love this game very much and have been trying to get my students to play it.We have more than 450 students where I work. Do you know what their reply is all the time? ''Sir this is not a game you have to be good to win,but one you have to be rich to win,so it is not challenging for our playing skills,only for our pockets.'' So even young people from the age of 13 to the age of 22 have realised this which means that some people in Panzar Studios who have thought of the paying aspects of the game are very poor professionals and not only don't know how to attract customers and make Pazar successful but make clients leave and abandon the game.

Thanks for the opportunity to express my views,my advice,sack the people responsible for money policy in your company,Panzar,they are destroying your game,make prices cheaper, so that the best win and competition is honest and your game will be a huge success because it is very beautiful and has huge potential.

I hope you are just trolling and not serius cook.

I'm absolutely serious and that is why many players of my clan have left the EU and we have started a new clan in the RU server,have been making Russian friends who can speak English well,so we can co-operate during battles,and are setting things there too.

These players are sick and tired of the prohibitive EU prices,the low number of teams here in the EU,and the low number of tournaments in the EU.In the Russian server there are 3 tournaments a week and hundreds of teams. Also I'm seriously thinking of disbanding my clan here in the EU and stop playing here due to the costs.But I haven't made a final decision yet.