I strongly believe they just don't want to normally support EU server any more while planning to go to Asian region. Western people are more or less familiar with the politics of the Studio not to trust it much. Eastern ones have seen nothing but a beautyful covering made with Cry Engine. May EU experience help them.
Again. It's not a matter of "cheap or expensive". It's a matter of competitiveness, which can't be provided by this F2P game (unlike L*L, D**A, H**S, etc.).

why are you going of topic.

I'm not talking about balance not about crafting do other game offer armor for sale didn't find one yet, do other games have crafting have not seen one yet. Do other game have useless things that don't help you in game yes.

1 crystal on EU = 0,03€
1 crystal on RU = 0,02€

Purpose of this to get same price as RU. Lest start with that.

Its just that a company that is losing costumers ask you to prove that is product are expensive... just look at the number's of client and sale, and they should see a problem with the price....

Its like we have to give panzar a market research... a market research should be make before opening a game, not 2 years after...
The way I see panzar, is unprofessional.
A bunch of kid that work from there parents garage. and they want to take a as much as they can, while they can....

I don't want to put money in the game anymore, I don't event know if the game will survive...no enough player's and team in tournament...

We know there is a small group of people who doesn't have to pay , because of total domination in tournaments. They achieved it months ago ,and now they are using advantages from previous systems of crafting, previous prices of crystals , and playing hard in the past. They receive lots of crystals every week , and don't have to pay. I am lucky enough to be in this small group.
But even with all those perks , despite that i have invested a lot of money , and I'm getting crystals regulary , i still don't have fully equipped character . Some of you could not believe me , but that is the fact. OFC with all those crystals invested in my Tank i'm very close to max gear , but still i miss some upgrades.(That's of course caused by the need of getting premium and amulets every month, meanwhile trying to do some upgrades) I can't say how much total crystals i have spend, those are ridicolous numbers. Moreover i have to say that i am playing my Tank for almost 2 YEARS. One character , 2 YEARS, and still no max gear . And that's only ONE CHARACTER.
Let's compare Panzar to other MOBA , Smite.
In Smite there are more than 50 characters. I could say that you can GET THEM ALL twice or more faster just by doing events and playing regulary , in time of equipping your character in Panzar , and paying for crystals. But that's not my point.
My point is that , to get those 50+ gods , you can simply buy them , for 23.99 Euro. That's the cost of premium in Panzar for few months. Moreover , by paying those 24 Euro , you buy all the UPCOMING characters , which are not realeased yet.
Just to prove my words :
http://www.hirezstudios.com/smite/nav/b ... e-god-pack
OFC I don't mean that you should play Smite, Panzar is freakin' awesome ! But let's make players happy , then there will be more players. If there will be more players , there will be more money , spend with happiness by more players. If there will be more money , the Devs are happy, and buy a new shiny Porsche, Lambo , or fridge.
Anyway thank you White Wolf for trying to change something, good job again , i bet that our small community is grateful just like i am.
Edit : White Wolf , i just have read your comparing on Smite vs Panzar changing nickname. It says you have to spend more gems in Smite than crystals in panzar to change the nickname but i don't think if is it connected with gameplay in any possible way... Moreover you change your name of your account in Smite, not just the name of the particular character like in Panzar. I find your example completely inaccurate. Why haven't you said about the costs of getting maximum gear in both games ? It looks like a try to prove that Smite is more expensive. Changing nickname doesn't give anyone adventage in game. I'm sorry but this example makes me completely sick.

Just one more thing , i think we would all like to know how are the things going with Panzar Studio , and if there are any statements.

Hi Asmoy,

Smite 50+ chars = 23,99€ Panzar 8 chars lvl 10 = 38,21€
Smite 50+ chars = 23,99€ Panzar 8 chars lvl 20 = 76,67€
Smite 50+ chars = 23,99€ Panzar 8 chars lvl 30 = 408,24€

This is what you mean, I hope so and if correct the I need more examples like this.

The name change example is in favor of Panzar.

I know Smite works with skins but to what can you compare it in Panzar.

I need this kind of thing I have read the post and you are all right is would be better if Panzar does what we want, it would also be better if there was more attention in the past if we do nothing and blame everything on the past what should have been done or what need to be done we are not getting anywhere.

Help me show Panzar that they are expensive so I have at lease a possibility to present my case to panzar and get something out of it.

I'm asking for you help.

The summary about my thoughts on Smite you made are completely fine , and that's what i meant. I also pointed out that comparing prices of nickname changes are a little bit unfair , because in Panzar the nickname change works only on one char, but anyway the nickname change doesn't seem to be so important overall , and lowering the price will not help the players to gear up. Are you asking me for finding another example of cheaper game? I'll help you as much as i can , just precise the task .

250 / 500 crystals Helmet Skin in Panzar + 200 / 300 /500 body parts colors <-------> 200/400/600 Whole body skin Smite

It gives , in the cheapest version 450 crystals for skin , with the 1000 crystals for the most expensive skin Panzar

With the cheapest version of 200 and the most expensive 600 Smite

I let myself to use your previous summary and extend it for skins

Panzar:
Object-------------Ammount-----Crystal Price----Total cost in €
Crystals----------------1-------------0,03-------------0,03
Skin (cheapest)------450 -----------0,03------------- 13,5
Skin 2 (expensive )--1000----------0,03-------------- 30


Smite
Material------------Ingame------€--------Total €
Gems------------------1--------0,015 ----0,015
Skin (cheapest)------200------0,015---- 3
Skin 2 (expensive)---600 ------0,015 ---- 9

As we can see , skin configuration in Panzar costs 13,5 / 30 Euros , and in Smite 3/9 Euros.
Edit : actually , there are more skin options like emotes and moustaches / hair / whatever in panzar , but i'm not sure if adding it to the full-skin is ok.

Well Well Well, here we are,

The problem is not mainly about the prices (even if it has is own influence).

If we based an evaluation on gaming only, Panzar is the best PVP internet game and i'm sure no one can contest it with proof. Full character control, cute maps, skills, teamplay, 3D graphics, good effects, ... You have the one of the best group of game progammers.

But if we based the evaluation about the system gestion, Panzar is the worse game (all types of game considered) i ever see. Crafting system(% chance), ressources gained vs ressources needed, expensive cost (you ask us to find a game cheaper, but because we dont know all the game, i ask you to find a game more expensive), No good community, No listen to players, No much events (there is Easter Eggs, Valentine's Day, ...),

i will resume the best update of panzar and the bad one, and you can compare with the number of connection/disconnection between those periods to know what you can do to change. Because i dont have much time to developp what make them beter or bad, i'm letting you find out.

You should check by date (month/day/year)

Good updates:
- 10/23/2013 31.0
- 12/23/2013 32.0
- 2/18/2014 32.3
- 3/24/2014 33.0 (good mostly because of PVE, but when all players experienced it, many started leaving)
- 5/29/2014 34.0 (The great comming back, we wanted to experienced the new changes: "the update of hope", but many bad surprises also)
- 12/15/2014 36.0 (Desperate panzar update to initiate eternal potions, but no more player)

Bad updates:
- 1/22/2014 32.2
- 3/24/2014 33.0 (Changes like that don't have to happen in the same updates, never)
- 4/16/2014 33.5, 33.6 (My God, the finishing blow)
- 5/07/2014 33.8 (Many players haven't leave yet, but now it is the right time)
- 5/29/2014 34.0 (players started dying because lacking potions due to the increase of exchange rate 4/1, without announcement)
- 8/11/2014 35.0 (Beginning of crafting failure, increase all the game costs. Panzar EU is dead. No more than 70 players in Global)

Now we are just few players left in EU, it's impossible to get more players, they can't stand again the epic one left.
So players lacking game and start merging to russian, and OHHHHHH? Crystals are cheaper here, pony the EU.
So as my clan leader Cook said (White Snake), we are all leaving EU now. Waiting for good changes as prayers wait for Jesus.

Why people who stayed just can't leave/delete the game?
-They are in love with it
-They suffer too much to reach their actual level
-They spend too much money to give up now
-It is sometime easy to get crystals from tournament (Grid luck)

But don't think they love the system, it's a bullshit. You have useless managers there, yes useless. Because any good manager couldn't have left things going like that.
There is no more hope for EU server, unless an incredible miracle.
If you planned to create a new server as I heard, please don't make the same mistake.

Well, I have finish.

Its funny how you guys think this topic gonna help in a dramatic way
If the russians really care they would have done something by now.The scope of this topic is to make the same price for crystals how is in RU.
So you gonna be lucky if that happen

If no other games to compare can be show nothing will change for sure then Panzar is correct.

F2P

Sorry but if u think panzar is f2p u are totaly wrong.
ok if you have much time and don't have friends mayby it is but i don't know this people.
You can let the prices but then you need to change:
1. Crafting System because it's puppies if you need for some items 10 tryings (2 monts of playing)
2. Change matchmaking. I discsee that with u. You say all time in Global Chat 901 is max different in 1 Team i gived you 3 Screen shots with more then 1200 differenc. Make max differenc 500 and player will also wait 5min for a Game and new players will not leav so fast
3. Don't show the Efficiancy to the players (Less leaving)
4. make same crsital prices like RU Server
5. Delet Lucky Hors it make the Game p2w impossible to make full red upgrades without it (and don't tell me that that is not p2w)
6. Why they changed max limit from resurces to 999 and not like 5 months ago 9999? mayby because ols school players have to much resurces and invest no more monay? (useless they play tounrnaments and get there cristals) I mean u need for some items 400+ resurces and u can only have 999 where is ther the logic?
7. If u want more reasons only say it and i make u a longer list why the Server is not working