I just wanted to point these words out, for the future. I apologise for a little OT.

Actually, I don't see the difference between the respect you owe to other clans, or the respect you owe to your clan members, it's all the same no ? It's about respecting other persons. Why does it care if they are in the clan or not ? Would you be virulent to your family and not to other people because it is not the same ? I don't get it ! Respect is about everyone, not specific persons... And when within the clan you say awful stuff to our clan members, well, there are ways to say it, maybe saying "gg afk" or "NOOB TANK" after losing the engage is a lack of respect too... Why would it be different just because we are in your clan ? I really don't get it, you don't respect us and you talk about respect, we've always been nice to you, why did you become so aggressive towards us ? We are really trying to figure this out

And if you understood french, you would know that I spent my time, and I am not the only one, trying to calm down the chat on ts, still, I don't think that expelling good players because they are warm-blooded would be the solution. Many players are like this, we always get a "easy" or "noobs" at the end of a game for no reason, yes, saying it back is silly and should not be done, I totally agree on that, but respect goes both ways.

And to finish, yes, I've seen you write angry stuff on the global chat like many do... especially in your bad period time. But apparently you hold a grudge for a while against us. Why didn't we talk this out ? We could have tried to know how things could have been improved. Why bring it public before we talk together about it ? Anyway, I don't think we should keep this conversation on the forum, if you want to improve things like I do, come ts before a tournament and we'll talk about how we can settle things. Making it public doesn't help I am not continuing that conversation here, but I do want to continue it on ts in a friendly way.

When you failed for example last tournament and admitted failing, we did not hold a grudge against you, sh*** happens, no one can play well all the time, it's OK.
Apparently, we still have more respect for you than you have for us.

And saying the awful things you say the way you said and refusing to play when we lose a bit is NOT stating the problems in the teams, it is only about yelling and making a fuss. I do sometimes tell my mates when they do something wrong, but I do not do it in your way. That's why I did not get a "shut up". Now if you want to leave clan, that's ok, personnally I don't want that to happen because I like you but I can cope with it. i am not sure you'll be the way you were back then ever again and lately, it's been ruining the atmosphere of the clan. We still think you can be again like you used to be, that's why we don't expell you, but now it's up to you. Your call, I am sure you'll find a good clan that suits you anyway so it's up to you.

Excuse me, who started this in forums at the first place? THIS post was about the respect BETWEEN the clans, and you started, YES YOU STARTED to talk about the respect within our clan and thanks to you, here we are talking about the problems which must be solved in OUR clan chat or our TS channel.

You asked what is the difference between the respect between clans and respect inside the clans, well, you started discussing a problem (being me) in a very wrong place, in a very amatur way. The professional way was to talk about this in private, and as I have said it 100s of times with a "sorry" lable on it, currently i am extreamly busy in life and in addition, can not go to TS until tomorrow.

Now end this unprofessional conversation that you started in the wrong place and wrong post, and find a better place and time to discuss about it.

Other players are welcome to continue this topic with RELATED matter, being respect between the clans. If you have personal problem with me like Elindoria does, please either write me in chat privately or if you wish to go public with it like Elindoria does, please open another post in forum.

Thank you

That first post was a direct attack towards our clan, apologizing on behalf of our members and asking us publicly to stop doing some things or you would leave, you made private things public, I then needed to put things straight public, end of story. Most of the topic was nice and I was glad you wanted to make peace, then I realised that it was a way out to Exclusive to regain their favour after direspecting them. You've been so awful lately with our clan, we all knew you were expecting to leave, that's ok to do so, but the way you do it, that's so low.
By the way, Exclusive did not deserve that troll you done on the gold league "oh Exclusive crying !", and now you apologize and everything and tell insiduously that you will be leaving clan, and now say everywhere that exclusive is so great (which is right by the way but you've been telling the opposite and downsizing them all the time in the clan-chat).
It was important to make that public too.
We all know you want to go to Exclusive now, but it would have been best if you respected them BEFORE wanting to be recruited to go to a better clan.
I am not discussing this anymore.

If you want to go to exclusive, you don't need all that talk.

And by the way, when I was saying you were the most virulent talker and you said "you did not mean towards the clan", I also meant on the global chat. So it was not off topic. You were one of the first to show direspect to other clans, and yet you say you "might" leave (when it's been obvious lately) because we lack respect.

Your post would also have had more credibility if your main char (zerk) didn't leave the clan BEFORE posting that "beloved clan, I don't want to leave you but if you keep offending people..."

Using the "respect" excuse to explain your future leave, that's low coming from one of the most virulent talker there is, within the clan or towards others...
One message of respect is a bit easy to undo all you've done and said...

I dont know where do you get your facts from, but the time that post was being written, my zerk was in the clan, and anyway my zerk left as I already made an agreement earlier with our clan leader to play TANK from that time on. And FYI my zerk only returned to the clan because of COSMOS.


I think now everyone knows who is the most "virulent" talker.

As your messages makes zero sense to me, from this moment they will be left alone without being replied.

Thank you