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Panzar Championship 25.09.2013 
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1)Office was not closed, we are still operating in Europe and everything is fine. We still have people who used to work for us for several months. So I urge you not to spread any rumors.
2)We do not accept swearing in any language, it doesn't matter for us which language do you use to swear or insult other people it's forbidden and will be punished! Without any excuses.
3)Please control your emotions and express your thoughts in calm and polite way.;)


Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:32 pm
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Dear Community and Panzar Crew,

with insulting and offense talking we can reach nothing else than trouble. Please calm down and cool your heads. If this thread seems to explode there should be a reason, isn't it? Most of us do not welcome the new tournament system. I say it for the 5th time, please reconsider it and change it asap. You could lose lots of players just cuz of this. As the others said you can't compare the RU Servers with EU Servers. I have to nothing to say anymore and hope there will be changes in the near future... :roll:

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Yes, we obviously have cultural difference :)

Approximate cultural difference ratio is 1.7
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TheJackal wrote:
Dear Community and Panzar Crew,

with insulting and offense talking we can reach nothing else than trouble. Please calm down and cool your heads. If this thread seems to explode there should be a reason, isn't it? Most of us do not welcome the new tournament system. I say it for the 5th time, please reconsider it and change it asap. You could lose lots of players just cuz of this. As the others said you can't compare the RU Servers with EU Servers. I have to nothing to say anymore and hope there will be changes in the near future... :roll:

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Yes, thank you, I saw that you wrote several times, that you do not like it.
But you never said why, except the strongest will become stronger and my answer was: "wait day or two and you'll see the full set of rules"

If you have any additional arguments please tell


Wed Sep 25, 2013 3:09 pm
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I personnally have no problems with the new system because the new rules is good( Maybe add 7 player lvl 20 each team minimum). But i think the rewards must be change like The first place get 5000 crystals The second 3500 and 3-4 place get 1700(It will be a total of 12500 crystals). For the new team who want to improve in tournament (which is very hard due to experienced clan) They must have a minimum of 7 players lvl 20 in their team and receive a compensation of 50 crystals just for the participation.

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Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:24 pm
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Ok. Here is a summery of the arguments why the tournament System should be changed.

1. As I said strong teams will get stronger because of the Crystal flooding to their pot every tournament.
2. We are not playing Lottery. This is a skill based game. So the reward should not given "random" to any team. Look at the Tournaments registiration. Many "one Man" Teams appeard... Why? You know! So for example the worst team could get the Crystal instead of a team who fighted through till semi-finals and deserve nothing :!:
3. Split the Reward (Crystals) Example: 1. 6000, 2. 5000, 3. 3500, 4. 3000, 5-8. 500
4.With the new System the new teams can improve themselves and it animates them to have fun even if the lost/sucked. They will try their best next week.
5. Many players are working in the week. With many teams the tournament will last long so my suggestion would be to held the tournament on Weekends or Friday Evening.

These are so far my arguments, please feel free to make suggestions what could be done or not.

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Hans wrote:
Yes, we obviously have cultural difference :)
From my point of view "Ok, guys... I don't like it. I'm out" - boycott
"Do what I want or I'll leave" - terrorism :)


Hmm I guess you are not watching news and you don't know what is going on around the world (specially in Kenya) to use such analogy and definition.^^

So basically tournament start tonight but you will publish the full set of rules in few days? :D

So far, all we saw is that you are listening to our disagreement and disapointnement but you don't take it in consideration since "we will see". Plus I've got the feeling that you don't realize how offensiv and disrespectful your several replies look like (or you don't care). It's not really being open "from my point of view" :D


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Hans wrote:
Yes, we obviously have cultural difference :)
From my point of view "Ok, guys... I don't like it. I'm out" - boycott
"Do what I want or I'll leave" - terrorism :)


Hmm I guess you are not watching news and you don't know what is going on around the world (specially in Kenya) to use such analogy and definition.^^

So basically tournament start tonight but you will publish the full set of rules in few days? :D

So far, all we saw is that you are listening to our disagreement and disapointnement but you don't take it in consideration since "we will see". Plus I've got the feeling that you don't realize how offensiv and disrespectful your several replies look like (or you don't care). It's not really being open "from my point of view" :D

As English not my native language (sorry for this) please correct me, as I didn'tt intend to offend anybody.
As to analogy.... You know I saw such things in streets, so let's close this discussion :)

Rules: It'll be better to have it yesterday, but due to several technical issues it wasn't done. And ok todays tournament is just for fun without ratings etc. just fight for the prize.


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Ok. Here is a summery of the arguments why the tournament System should be changed.

1. As I said strong teams will get stronger because of the Crystal flooding to their pot every tournament.
2. We are not playing Lottery. This is a skill based game. So the reward should not given "random" to any team. Look at the Tournaments registiration. Many "one Man" Teams appeard... Why? You know! So for example the worst team could get the Crystal instead of a team who fighted through till semi-finals and deserve nothing :!:
3. Split the Reward (Crystals) Example: 1. 6000, 2. 5000, 3. 3500, 4. 3000, 5-8. 500
4.With the new System the new teams can improve themselves and it animates them to have fun even if the lost/sucked. They will try their best next week.
5. Many players are working in the week. With many teams the tournament will last long so my suggestion would be to held the tournament on Weekends or Friday Evening.

These are so far my arguments, please feel free to make suggestions what could be done or not.

Thanks.

1)Strong teams will win tournament in any case with any system, let's be honest. You can split the prize as you want but the winner still get's the biggest part, otheriwse there is no sense
2)We still have the skill based competition and I do not see anything bad in some incentive prizes. Team with 1 member or less than 7 would not be part of this "lottery" how you called it. In next version if they will have less than 7 members at the registration ending they will be expelled. If they would not have 7 players at the begining of tournament they will be expelled. If they'll enter tournament and would not move team will be expelled. etc.
3)You'll have it in Premier league.
4)Could you please explain which system is new, because we have lot's of systems right now :)
5)As we thought we'll have Championship on working days and Premier league on weekend. It could be changed in future.


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So please say something about Premium Leage!!!
1st time i hear about it.


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