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If you play 1 Charakter 3-4 Hours on every day. You can farm maybe Amu's and Runes for 1 Charakter with Premium!
If you play 1 Charakter like 6-8 Hours on every day, you can farm the amu's and Runes without Premium, i dont know.

But, If you want to play more charakter, you cant farm this Runes and Amus. I Play much Games with 2-3 Charakter and Premium. And i got enough mats for Runs and Amu's for 2 Charakter...
And Mindhunter, you have 5-6 LvL 20 Fullgear char's on EU Server, and you pay Money !! If you say, no its a lie.. Sry ;)
In Panzar Equip over all, and with the new Crafting system, you need more then 20 Day's for Full Equip. In This 20 Day's you get Reped ;)

Its true, we can change Runes in the new Crafting system, thats great. But you cant farm more then 2 Chars with Premium. Maybe 1 Char without Premium, but you must play alot, and you cant waste your Pots. With Premium, i must buy some Potion's ;(
Maybe you got more Ressources on LvL 30, but on EU Server its imposible to farm all without Paying .
Without Premium you can Craft only 1 Armor . LvL 16-20 Armor need 1-2 Day's. Epic 4 Day's.
LvL 28 Epic need 8 Day !!! Normalgear like 2-4 Day's, and this with 1 Slot ;)

So yes, you can farm it without paying, but you need much much much time , in this Time you play vs full geared People, this make no fun.
It's like p2w.
Real f2p Games are Smite,Dota or LoL. In This games, you can Spend Money for Style but not for Gear or Upgrades.
This is a PvP Game, and you can Buy Armor Amu's and Pot's for Real Money , so tell me this is not P2W?

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Fri Oct 18, 2013 2:31 am
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No, you are stupid, as i told (you have not enough logical thinking) i play it more than year, so i play on RU server too, so i have tested new craft and upgading system.
Amuls will need less resourses and u can change mana and stamina runes to health or mastery, so u dont have to buy them, did u know that? so, why are u saying that it will need more cash and so on? Only becouse u are thnking you so smart.

And now, STFU, new comer, who is thinking that he is so smart, and know everything about panzar, in 2-3 months, idk.


And as i told (ps, repeat 3rd time, is it so difficult to understand?) im not telling that i know everything and im so cool and so on, i just telling you, that u have wrong opinion.


Sorry Mindhunter I know you've played a long time, but I've been playing for about 3 months on EU and now RU ,servers I have every class and have supported this game with time and money from the US. I love the game, but the new craft system STINKS for anyone who isn't already max level. The upgrade system is great if you your gear is already +8 or whatever because you have nothing to lose.. But for the new 20 or 30 they will have to spend so much more time just to get to say +3.
I started crafting "ONE" level 20 armor and was level 25 before I didn't even need it anymore.. 2 days man! one piece of normal armor!

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Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:09 am
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From the 20th lvl, gear doesnt change. So u will always need this 20th lvl armour.

Yes, i know, it is kinda special, but this system is much more friendly for ppl who play without the cash.

Ow.... epic... i think to not p2w ppl this isnt so important thing.

After hotfixes, time was downgraded, and i think it will be downgrade once more.

Ow, and yeah, im sorry for trying to brake your beliefes.


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Mindhunter has received a 1 day ban for flaming. Forum members are reminded that insulting other members is not and will not be tolerated.

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Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:25 pm
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Hello Queen Bee,

I hope you will read this, atleast you are the new community manager ^^
As Auni already kind of said, this is in my opinion the most pay2win game I have ever played. I'm happy to support this game as I'm having much fun in playing it. I'm trying my best to keep my amulets and runes up, and in the meantime training for tournaments hoping one day we will win it :). But sometimes you want to play more than one character, and then we are coming to the mission impossible. I get bored of playing the same public games all over again with the same character. So I want to play another character but have to buy runes AND amulets on it in order to compete against the others, because there are always some people in the game who play with a character who has amu and runes.

I don't care if I have to farm the runes on characters, but amulets should be atleast useful on more than one character... I think that will convince more people to buy them, and you get more money from these people instead of these few people who buy everything on all characters. Been playing russian server since yesterday and I don't know why I should play on EU anymore, except for my friends who are here. The crystals there are 30-40% cheaper as here, reduced cost of amulets by 3 times, 10x more players ( so I'm also able to play at night) and much more. There is also an english mode so everything is in english, now I don't understand why the patch has not yet been released on EU. I'm starting to think EU is only a beta-phase from the russian server.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks like this, so please take it in consideration.

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Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:49 pm
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Hi Bumbalou,

yeah that's one of the problems PANZAR got right now. All of my mates stoped playing or went to RU Server because there are more players so you don't have to wait too much. (Playing during the day possible). Another Reason was the Crystals. They are cheaper. My suggestion to stop the problem was to forbid EU Players play in RU Servers and RU Players forbid to play in EU Servers.
All should play in their region where they come from. So the EU Servers should be (I hope so) more populated. So that means less queue time, that means more players because of no longer waiting.
After that when the game should get on Steam the Servers should be laggy as hell (I hope so again) because of the overcrowding.

These are all hopes from an old hopless PANZAR Player...
I'm also inactive right now, just sometimes in forum to check the new and still waiting for the promised, long awaiting Update 31!

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Mindhunter has received a 1 day ban for flaming. Forum members are reminded that insulting other members is not and will not be tolerated.

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