WTF, Xylar ? WTF is wrong with you ? You have either problems in reading or processing the information.

You : All I can say is that a person who says 'P2W is excuse for NOOB ONLY' doesn't have a least clue what they're talking about, because they have never played naked vs full eq players. They usually play a possibly-maximum-built inquisitor with all runes etc, feeding themselves with others' losses only, as it became so boring after some time. And that's real lack of confidence you mentioned. Damn, I really regret such people. I don't want to know what you have in your mind to tell such words. Seriously. Damn, there is even no word to say to you about any of 'how it is to play no pay', because you are so damn lacked of any idea about the issue.

Me : I have leveled up from lvl 1-30 without paying any crystals, and man, i have had so much fun.
I have not just leveled up normal, i did it even more hardcore. I leveled all my way up in lvl1 armor and weapon ( recruits armor ) and i was not crying and trashing forums, in game chats, that omg again p2win, oh no, everyone in epic and im almos naked...
Also : I will not even take light armor, before i will have 500wins with epic weapon. Yea, that hardcore i will go !
And men, i can tell that there is no battle where i dont see full epics

You : Only one choice is free, the other isn't, in no way. Choosing between 1 is not a choice at all.

Haha, i lolled to this hahaha But i think your too dumb to understand it why lol
IT IS YOUR CHOICE WHAT YOU CHOOSE AND YOUR CHOICE IS ALWAYS FREE TO CHOOSE ! GOT THAT !?!

What goes about BV. It is not a joke. It is MATHEMATICAL CALCULATIONS between your equipment, lvl and skill.
The longer you play, the more accurate it will be. NUMBERS DONT LIE !
Joke is the guy who tries either lower, or raise it in unnatural way. It is very stupid kind of cheating. Totally useless.
Yes, the guy will get and benefit what he wants but only in SHORT TERM.
In LONG TERM, he is going to be totally fcked in so many ways, not matter what he will do.
Do you know why ? Because every time he lowers or raises his bv, he is leaving skill out of the calculations.
By leaving out the skill he creates a tiny hole in calculations. By the time this hole will be bigger and bigger (only if he continues to play with his bv), until he stops doing that and will play the game as it is. Whole. Equipment+lvl+skill. Then the hole what he created will gonna slowly fill. And i can say, that filling that hole will not gonna be easy at all. Speaking about in the LONG TERM.
I feel sad for people who does that. They are too dumb to understand that they do more harm than good for themselves. Sad, so sad.

I already said some words about that 'touching story'

About the 'choice' - mind you stop trolling? don't change into Unsichtbar. You say 'its not p2w' which means 'anybody can play without paying and be the winner with those who pay'. Who cares if choosing itself playing with or w-out money is free lol? It's like you said 'You can go to the shop and buy trousers for 100$ or you can go to refuse dump and find these for free. choice is yours and you dont have to pay for it, its a free choice'. Damn, who's dumb here...

And bv is indeed a joke. It's a very imperfect system. It's simply a bad system. It should never occur that one berserker can play with another zerker with twice as good eq, because the second can simply kill the first one with one hit in block. Got it? One berserker can't survive a few gunners' bullets, while the second survives a skyfire. Got it? I always give examples, do you ever do?

You dude have problems with claim how things really are. Either it comes from ignorance, stubbornness or .. trolling ^^

You guys this is no post to comment each other.

Or you help getting me what I ask or I start deleting post that are off topic.

Game is F2P.

A lot feel other way that is there choice.

The question remains show me that other game are cheaper then Panzar and why you can't pay what is asked.

I find the argument for Firemister a good one and it has to do with exchange AND the value of the €
I find the price of polish player high, the value is close to the Ruble then the €.

That are the things I want

I started exploring smite myself:
Panzar:
Object-------------Ammount-----Crystal Price----Total cost in €
Crystals----------------1-------------0,03-------------0,03
Change Name--------100------------0,03---------------3

Smite
Material------------Ingame------€--------Total €
Gems------------------1--------0,015 ----0,015
Change Name-------400 -------0,015-------6

Sup Allstar how you doing

I'm a free player (just buy VIP due to the anniversary promotion), I spend ~300 hours on my main to hit level 30, but with items level 10 and 2 level 20 (Weapon still level 10 and no one epic), so I think something is wrong with the calculation.

I don't spend a lot of money in this game due to the P2W aspect (i'm a bit masochyste).

But theyr is a lot of Inconvenience:
I can't play gunner (people one shoot my armored turret)
It's really hard and frustating when you hit 3000 eff (every full geared zerk or inquisitor one shoot you, even you block, maybe 2 shot if you play tank)
You fail a lot of craft (I try to craft weapon on all my charactere during a week, 8 fail on 9 with 70% chance).


What you can change?

Make the same price for everyone (RU and EU), we play in the same game.
Make a new system for amulette, it need to work on all your charactere when you use it. The actual system force you to play only one charactere, if people play more than one charactere they use more the CS, and if people make more new charactere they offer you a new chance to get new player (some friend just leave due to the queu time), you just have to reduce they P2W aspect to make them stay.
Delete the proc system from craft, it's really frustrating when you fail a craft, even you up the number of component by 100%.
theyr is a lot of solutions, this list isn't exausive.


Sorry for my english, you can edit to correct it if you stay in the same mind.

This is the purpose. But for that to happen I need to show panzar that they are expensive for us.

There are 2 aspects between the price in RU and EU 1) exchange rate and 2) cost of living.

So panzar ask 2 question, prove that Panzar is expensive to other games and why is it to expensive for you. In this post there is mention of the polish prices for this game which seem really expensive for this game it that kind of info I need.

Minimum salary in france ~1200€,
rent an apartment ~750€ in my region
Load(Responsibility) ~200€
Food ~200€

So if you are single you can't pay 200€ for a charactere on panzar.

In Poland the minimal price is 1300zl and the average is 2800zl (officially).
I got to know that it is literally impossible to create a single big rune when you have just leveled up to 30. You need all red + 2 random coloured (all of them as well) rune shards to create enough small runes to create o n e s i n g l e big rune. Now just add to it all the crafting chance. And for how long have you played? 1, 2, 3 months? Conclusion: you can't craft a rune, you have to buy all.

So, one full character costs 51,03€ which is about 204zl. A set of 10 big runes is 62,82€ which is 250zl. So, to compete in tms in a f2p game (and I'll only mention that many people play with full set of everything normally on public games, and bv is a fail system) you have to pay at least 250zl. Then either you pay +51,04€ = 204 zl or you'll have to wait for over half a year before you'll be possible to compete. Before that, you will be punished. You will be punished with tons of nerves and sweat just because all the other guys have the heavy outfit. And yet let's remember we talk only about o n e s i n g l e character. What if I want to play two? 250+200=450, 450*2 = 900.
Then, just to fulfill all calculations, a set of amulets per 1 month costs 7,38€ which is about 30zl.

Gta5 that has just came on market costs 170zl. BF Hardline - 220zl. League of Legends - 0.

Why do we have to prove that panzar way don't work?
Panzar don't have statistic of the pass 2 years of the euro server?
Just go see the connection ratio on steam for panzar, November 2013, peak of 1600 player's connected, now never more then 200 player's connection peak.

Panzar should make a statistic data history and look at it...
How Many active account?
How many inactive account?
How many account created and active less then a month or two?
What modification have been made in time of mass players leaving?

How many accounts have buy crystals?
what is the average of crystals buy by account?
what was the price of crystals want they where selling the most? and the less?
And so on....

If Panzar can't see the problems by themselves, its maybe that they are the problem, lol.

This subject was mentioned by the community billions of times. Devs seem not to ever have seen that. I wish they answered on @up. I hope White will work to get to them with these questions.